Eliminating Joint Debt in Bankruptcy, Part 2

In my previous post, I discussed how joint debts can make two individuals liable, even when only one enjoyed the benefits of the loan. In this post, I will discuss when joint debts can (and cannot) be eliminated through Chapter 7 bankruptcy and Chapter 13 bankruptcy.

The easiest way to dispose of joint debts in a bankruptcy is to file a joint bankruptcy. Joint bankruptcies allow two debtors to file at the same time with one petition, adding convenience and reducing costs. Joint bankruptcy is only allowed, however, with legally married couples. Boyfriend-girlfriend, bother-sister, parent-child, BFF-BFF... none of these can file a joint bankruptcy. Only a legally married couple can file (NOTE: recent case law and practice allows this to include same-sex couples). Engaged doesn't count, you need to be married at the time of filing.

So, if you are a married couple, with joint marital debts, you can file a bankruptcy to discharge these joint debts in one filing. If this is an option, the process will be pretty simple and it is a great, efficient way to deal with your financial problems.

Where things get murky is when only one co-debtor wants to file bankruptcy, or only one co-debtor is able to file. If you have a co-signed loan on which you are liable, and you file an individual bankruptcy, your personal obligation on that debt will be discharged and eliminated. However, your co-signer will become completely liable on the loan. The debt is only wiped out as it relates to you, it is not completely eliminated. The creditor can still pursue your co-debtor.

This will sometimes lead to a situation where a non-filing parent or spouse is left on the hook with the debt. If they are unable or unwilling to file their own individual bankruptcy, this debt will lead to collections and lawsuits. In these cases, after your discharge you can voluntarily help pay back your joint debtor, though you are under no legal obligation to do so. It is up to you.

There is one scenario where a joint debt may NOT be dischargeable in bankruptcy when you file on your own. If you have agreed to assume a joint marital debt (or any marital debt) as part of a formal property settlement agreement in a divorce, you cannot eliminate this debt in a Chapter 7 bankruptcy. This marital debt can only be eliminated in a Chapter 13 bankruptcy (which may require you to repay some money to your creditors). This policy of bankruptcy law protects divorced spouses who have negotiated in a divorce from being made liable on joint debts they rightfully negotiated away as part of the settlement.

This one example aside, if you file bankruptcy on a joint debt, your obligation will be cleared away. You can also be on the other side of this scenario... if someone you share a joint debt with files without you, YOU will become wholly liable. This is important to understand, us you may in turn need to file a bankruptcy.

If you are dealing with joint debts, contact us to set up a free consultation to see if bankruptcy is an option for eliminating the debt.

How Long Does It Take To File Bankruptcy

Prospective clients often ask me, "how long does it take to file a bankruptcy?" It's a reasonable question, but impossible to answer definitively because it involves numerous factors. I will often respond to the question by asking a question of my own, "how long will it take for you to get me everything I need?"

The first factor is collecting all of the necessary paperwork and documentation. At a minimum, my clients must get me the following information:

• 6 months of paystubs
• 2 years of tax returns and W2s
• Retirement account information
• Lawsuit information
• Information about your home, such as amount owed on the mortgage, tax status, and appraised values
• a monthly budget
• bills and debts not listed in the credit report.

This information is all necessary to file a bankruptcy, and must be provided, compiled, and organized in your bankruptcy petition. Sometimes tax transcripts or appraisals must be ordered. Sometimes it is difficult to compile paystubs. In any case, it often takes awhile to collect everything.

Next, all bankruptcy filers must complete a pre-bankruptcy credit counseling course. This course can be completed over the phone or internet (you don't need to leave your living room) and only takes an hour or two to complete. But, I cannot file until it is completed, even if all of the above-mention paperwork is available. Clients are sometimes slow to complete this course, and it will always hold up the bankruptcy filing.

Finally, I need to be paid before I can file. I have many clients paying through flexible payment plans, however, the case cannot be filed before the final payment (otherwise, the legal fees are discharged with the rest of the debt). I never pressure my clients for payment, I know they want to file their case more badly than I want to get paid. If it takes awhile, then it takes awhile... I'm not going anywhere.

So, how long does it take to file a bankruptcy? I have some clients who are very prepared, ready to do the classes, and able to pay the costs and fees who file only days after meeting me. Some clients, on the other hand, are on payment plans that range over a year. The answer to the question usually somewhere in between. In depends on circumstance.

Regardless of whether it will take a day or a year, I represent my clients with the same vigor. Contact us to set up a free consultation and see if you qualify for Chapter 7 bankruptcy or Chapter 13 bankruptcy. Given you situation, I will be happy to estimate how long the process will take for you.

What is an "Asset" in Bankruptcy?

Bankruptcy law often refers to "assets and liabilities". This seems like a simple enough idea, and for the most part it is. However, what qualifies as an asset is much broader than what many people considering bankruptcy would believe.

The simplest definition of "asset" in bankruptcy is anything you own, or have the rights to, that has value (or potential value). This certainly includes your home, rental properties, cars, bank accounts, personal property, and cash. If you can sell it or transfer it, it is probably an asset.

However, the definition of asset goes far beyond these obvious examples. Assets also include contingent and unliquidated property. Contingent property is any property that becomes yours upon the occurrence of a certain condition, such as an inheritance (which becomes yours upon the condition of someone else dying). If you file a bankruptcy, and you are the heir to a deceased person whose estate is being administered, you must list your interest in the property you are to inherent. NOTE: You are not required to list property you stand to inherent if the person granting you the property is still alive. In a Chapter 7, however, you must inform the Court of any property inherited within 180 days of your discharge.

Unliquidated property is property for which the value or amount has not yet been determined. An example of unliquidated property would be a lawsuit in which your damages or award has not yet been determined. Once again, you will need to list this property as an asset.

Assets may also includes intangible property, such as intellectual property (patents, trademarks, copyrights) and franchises. A customer list used by a sales person could be an asset. A tax return, payment, or commission due to a debtor can also be considered an asset, even though the debtor does not yet possess it.

Clearly, the definition of an asset is very broad. All assets will be listed in Schedules A and B of your bankruptcy petition. Your attorney should closely review all of your assets, so they can be disclosed and exempted. If assets are hidden from the Bankruptcy Court, your case could be dismissed with prejudice. Perjury charges could even be filed.

If you have any doubt if something is an asset, disclose it to your attorney so he or she can determine if it must be disclosed to the Court.

What Questions Are Asked at the Meeting of Creditors?

The Meeting of Creditors is commonly a cause for concern and stress for individuals filing bankruptcy. However, this concern and stress is normally misplaced... the Meeting of Creditors normally runs smoothly without the creditors even showing up, and a little preparation makes it a clear and straightforward process.

Of course, the Meeting of Creditors normally runs smoothly as long as you have hired an experienced bankruptcy attorney who has prepared your case with expertise and care. While the questions are simple, it is more important that the underlying petition is completed correctly.

The process is less mysterious and intimidating when I review with my clients the questions to be asked by the Trustee. The questions normally asked in Western Pennsylvania include:

• How did you arrive at the listed value of your home?
• Have you transferred any property to a friend or family member in the last 2 (or 4) years?
• Have you ever filed bankruptcy before?
• Have you reviewed the information sheet prepared by the United States Trustee's office?
• Do you have any claims or lawsuits against anyone else?
• Have you filed all of your taxes that are due?
• Do you have any domestic support obligations?
• Have you lived in Pennsylvania each of the last 2 years?
• Have you read and reviewed the petition? Are you personally familiar with it? Did you sign it? Are there any errors or omissions to report?
• Have you completed a credit counseling class?
• What is your reason for filing?

These questions are very straightforward. Different trustees may ask different versions of these questions, but the gist of the questions are always the same... do you have (or do you expect to receive) property that can be used to pay your creditors? Have you given away property that could be used to pay your creditors? Have you filled out your petition truthfully?

The Trustee assigned to your case asks the questions as a way of review your petition, making sure it is complete and truthful, and verifying that you are familiar with its content. The Trustee is not looking to trick or deceive you. Simple "yes" and "no" answers are appropriate for almost every question. The "reason for filing" question is asked only for survey purposes, and can be simply answered with responses such as "overspending" or "loss of income".

As long as you have been honest and thorough with your attorney during the preparation process, the Meeting of Creditors should be a simple formality. These questions normally take less than 5 minutes to ask (NOTE: different questions may be asked in more complex cases involving business assets). Thorough preparation and a short review before your hearing will assure there are no problems at all.

Keeping Your Car in Bankruptcy

One of the most common fears of people considering a bankruptcy filing is that they will lose their car. For many of my clients, this is absolutely not an option, as they need their car to get to work, pick up their kids, and run errands.

Well, good news... as long as you can afford to keep it, you will NOT lose your car! The bankruptcy code recognizes the importance of cars in everyday life, and has accounted for it. You can absolutely file bankruptcy AND keep your car.

First, Federal bankruptcy exemption law provide an exemption of $3,675.00 for each bankruptcy filer (both husband and wife in a joint filing). This protects the value in your car(s) from creditors you owe money to. If property is exempt, they can't touch it. Now, there is a very good possibility your car is worth more than $3,675.00; however, the exemption need only be used towards the equity you have in the car. Equity is the value of the car MINUS what you owe. This amount is often less than the exemption amount, as cars lose value very quickly. In addition, there is an additional "wild card" exemption that normally covers any equity above the $3,675.00 limit.

Chapter 13 bankruptcy will even allow you to keep a car that you are behind payments on. You can catch up significant arrears through a 3-5 year Chapter 13 plan, and it is quite often used to help individuals who fell behind on a car payment due to temporary loss of job or other financial issue. The arrears are caught up over the course of the plan, with is normally quite affordable, while allowing continuing use of the car.

I did mention earlier that you can only keep a car you can "afford". There are some limitations on keeping your car in bankruptcy. The greatest limitation involves Chapter 7 and delinquent car payments. You can NOT keep a car you are behind payments on in a Chapter 7 bankruptcy. I will often advise clients who qualify for a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, yet owe back payments on a car, to catch up with the payment before filing the Chapter 7. If this is not possible, we will consider filing a Chapter 13 bankruptcy reorganization. Either way, I always tell my clients I am not in the business of having them lose their car... if there is a way to keep your car (no matter how desperate your situation), I will figure it out.

All this being said, through the exemption rules and general policy, bankruptcy law is designed for you to keep your car. People often erroneously believe they will lose their car, and refuse to consider a bankruptcy that could be hugely beneficial. Don't let this misplaced belief limit your financial options.

Contact us if you are having issue with a car payment or wish to discuss your financial issues in a free consultation.